i've listened to a lot of the debates, and not necessarily the debates between romney and obama, but debates with people and it seems like the camps are split. i just want someone to grab hold of the reins and make this company -- or make this country and this company all it can be. >> you came to new york, with $150. bought 20 pairs of bell bottom jeans and sold in your small town and off went the hilfiger empire. do you think you could still do that today? >> i think a lot of people are doing that. maybe not with $150, but people are starting small businesses and growing them. there are lots of examples now, and it's not only in america, but worldwide. so i think if you have a desire and where there is a will, there is a way. you need a dream, you need to build a great product and have a very specific roadmap. >> one of the great fashion icons of my lifetime in my studio and not get a fashion verdict on great political leaders. barack obama first. a little picture there. what is your view? >> he is much better off in a suit than -- than colored trousers or chino trousers. >> this i